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  • Towing with a Fortuner Crusade 2019 2.8d

    Hi I’m new to this forum and are waiting for my new Cursade to arrive.
    I have a Ford Teritory AWD diesel which will be traded and Tow a 2100kg loaded tandem 20foot van .
    They are similar in torque 440nm for the Ford and Toyota Fortuner 450nm
    so probable a bit late now but what are they like towing a similar van to ours?
    hopping there a great tow vehicle?
    Cheers Goodi
    Last edited by Goodi; 04-03-2019, 12:43 AM.

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    Is there a recommended run in period for the Fortuner before hooking up a van . Being a retired Mechanic I was thinking 1500km would be a good starting point.

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    • #3
      Goodi,
      I purchased my Fortuner GLX back in November and towed my Coromal 502 from Sydney to Gold Coast and return, I previously had a 2006 RWD petrol Territory which pulled the van effortlessly. The Coromal is only 1360 Kg ATM so the Fortuner towed it relatively easily most of the time. The Fortuner did seem to loose momentum quickly when climbing hills so needs to be dropped down a gear or two, paddle shift makes this very easy, I occasionally selected the 'POWER' mode which provided a very responsive climb of any hills. I am looking at upgrading to a heavier 4WD caravan also at around 2500kg so am also keen to see how a heavier van is pulled by the Fortuner. I average about 8.2/8.4 Litres per 100 klm between Windsor and Penrith and even up to Broke via St Albans and return along Putty Road. When towing the van during XMAS averaged about 15L per 100klms, normally sitting on the 100 kph on the open roads.
      Main disappointment for me was that I always seemed to only be able to use about 60 litres of the 80 litre tank.
      Regards,
      Tod.

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      • Goodi
        Goodi commented
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        Thanks for the feed back, I’m hoping it will pull my 2100kg van ok. The Territory diesel towed it well and retuned an average of 14.5 to 16.0 sitting on 95. We did look at the Imux but found it very dated inside and very jittery in the rear end.
        But they have a great fuel reputation.
        Cheers Goodi

      • Goodi
        Goodi commented
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        Hi Sorry Tod but my findings are if you tow at that weight 2500kg you will never see 5th or 6th gear

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      OK I have picked up my new fortuner it's now run in and about to go on a 7000k tow trip via inland qld and back via the coast. It has 2500k on the clock so should be run in enough to tow. I have just done a 100k tow test and was very pleased, 13lts per 100 sitting on 100k on relative flat freeway. And about 15ltrs per 100 at 80 to 90kph on rolling​​ Hills and tight corners so far very good.Ave for the 100k was 14ltrs. The van is a tandem full size 20ft grand tourer and about 2000kg level rides are on the lowest setting. I will report back after the trip.

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      • #5
        Ps I can manage to get 70ltrs in if I run it to zero or smack on empty on the guage with the computer saying 20km range left.

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        • #6
          Further more 6th gear is so high that on rolling hills light car at 105 to 110 kph it is continueing changing 6th then 5th then 6th then 5th then 6th
          So I end up trying to lock it into 5th to stop the enouance.

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          • #7
            So don't get me wrong it can tow very well 4s is what the prado is recommend to tow in and the Fortuner has the same ratios and tows well in 4th lock up but 90kph is 2200 rpm 95 2450 rpm 16ltr per 100
            85 about 2100 and was Ave 13lt per hundred

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            • #8
              Curious question time:: I've a Toyota tow bar & was wondering if the holes in it, which you attach bow shackles through, can be made larger & reinforced, so you can attach heavier rated shackles to the tow bar for towing purposes.

              Through the 4WD NSW & ACT Assoc, 4WD clubs have been told police & RMS are enforcing rules re car heights & caravan/trailer weights in NSW. Apparently Qld have been doing this for a while.

              Don't know if its true, but I've been told Qld are also checking the bow shackle ratings, to see if they can handle the weight of a van or trailer, should the unthinkable happen... eg, if your bow shackle is rated 1.5 tons & your van weighs more than that, you get fined. Theory being if the van jumps of the tow ball, the shackle isn't going to support the van's weight, regardless the chains might.

              If its true, this is where the problem is. Most tow bars have small holes & won't allow a thicker rated bow shackle to be passed through. That's why I've asked about getting the tow bar hole made larger & reinforced.

              Comments / thoughts would be appreciated.

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              • #9
                Originally posted by Anthony View Post

                Through the 4WD NSW & ACT Assoc, 4WD clubs have been told police & RMS are enforcing rules re car heights & caravan/trailer weights in NSW. Apparently Qld have been doing this for a while.

                Don't know if its true, but I've been told Qld are also checking the bow shackle ratings, to see if they can handle the weight of a van or trailer, should the unthinkable happen... eg, if your bow shackle is rated 1.5 tons & your van weighs more than that, you get fined. Theory being if the van jumps of the tow ball, the shackle isn't going to support the van's weight, regardless the chains might.
                I live in QLD , this issue comes up from time to time , its reccommended that you use proper rated shackles its not mandatory. If your shackles are rated at 1.5T the actual breaking limit is a lot higher , maybe 2 or 3 times that. And you have 2 of them anyway , so the safety margin is quite wide. And if the van is going to be that large it will most likely have an electric brake away unit fitted as standard. Personally i wouldnt go enlarging the holes for that shackle pin to fit through that would expose you to liability if the worst happened.
                2016 GX , in White

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                • #10
                  Appreciate the comment. Just one of those things that come into my crazy mind.

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                  • #11
                    As far a the shackles holes in the standard 3ton tow bar I would leave them alone and get good quality RATED D Shackles.
                    the standard slots take a good size shackle anyway.
                    Last edited by Goodi; 22-06-2019, 01:00 PM.

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                    • #12
                      While traveling in NSW we saw combined weight of more than 6ton had to go through some of the weigh bridges if they were open

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                      • #13
                        Coming back to Sydney from Port Stephens yesterday, the Mrs noticed a car & caravan combo in the truck weigh station. First time we'd ever seen it.

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                        • #14
                          Ok we have finished our trip and completed 8000km from Melb to Winton via outback roads that were sealed and back via the coast.

                          The Fortuner did not miss a beat and towed our 2100kg tandem van very well and nice and stable but there are some fundamental issues. The gear ratios are an issue 95kph and your sitting on 2500rpm which is to high for decent fuel economy. So take it up to 105kph and 5 th lock up will engage on relative flat roads And if no head wind and about 14 Lts per 100 but only in good conditions.
                          the ride is still choppy it’s ok on the concrete roads but uneven made roads the ride is crap. And still crap when not towing and the pressures are down to 30psi
                          so fuel economy over the trip was 13.8 to 19.5 Ave 14.0 to 15.0. Not to bad.
                          So if I had a choice to buy a new car again Hmm I like the look the finish the interior etc.of the Fortuner but the Engine is so so, ride quality is poor. The gear ratios are poor and the no AWD on sealed roads is a issue when it’s wet. And no standard auto trans cooler. Only after market.
                          So I would give the Fortuner a miss and look at a Ford Everest a better all round package better ride and 4x4 AWD is much better than the 2 wheel drives around wet roundabouts and wet roads.
                          I hope this helps someone from buying the wrong car which I think I have. And the new Prado has the same poor gear ratios and same so so 2.8 engine in it and 200kg more weight than the Fortuner so Prado not so good as well for a tow car. Toyota need to take notice as there going to loose lots of sales.

                          regards Goodi

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                          • #15
                            Regardless of what the engine - towing stats say, its a fairly big van behind a 4 cylinder car, but the 14-15 lts/100 fuel return for that trip sounds good to me. Even without towing, expecting to see 6th unless you're sitting over 100 kph in an auto Tuner likely won't happen. I've done a few 8-10,000 km trips with my Tuner, & noticed the larger vans are towed with a V8 cruiser or Ford Ranger/Everest.

                            I'm in the market for a used Avan camper trailer, but already have an aftermarket oil cooler & catch can fitted, which if you haven't already got, might be worth thinking about. If you're thinking of changing the car, do it sooner than later, while you can get a good price on it.

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